A proposed class for those cars... not so concours...

[Chris Thauberger]

Did Shelby build cars to be driven or shown as concourse 50 years later?

Truly not meant to piss anybody off.

Terry

I think he built them to make money...

[Jim Herrud]

+1

[hertzdonut]

That we agree on!

[Side-Oilers]

Ha!  Yes!!

[2112]

Yep personalized is my favorite as well but I do have a lot of appreciation for the stock class. I was one of two judges that judge the Tiger Class at Carmel at the big Car weekend in Monterey and it was tough. It took a good 4-5 hours to judge 8 cars.
Attached is a picture of my car, started out stock and now with a 289 with aluminum heads, roll bar, non-stock dash it has ventured over to personalized/ modified depending on how the Tiger Club hosting the event views it.

^^^^Beauty!

I think there is room for everyone. I too admire truly concours cars. The work and expense can't be under stated.

[Side-Oilers]

Agreed that there is, or should be, room for everyone.

My KR is not concours by any means. It is a Day 2+ car, but still has a lot of its original parts, materials and finishes.

I have never entered it in a show. I simply like to drive it there and look at everyone else's machines. 

I tend to like anything that's nicely restored, nicely built or nicely preserved...so long as it has something to do with CS.  Even basket cases are fun to study.

And, thanks to the numerous experts on this site, I have substantially increased my knowledge of all of the above.

Good times.

[427heaven]

All for one and one for all, bring em out and lets all get along and enjoy our cars as they are, and not continually nit pick about whats wrong with every ones rides!

[1967 eight barrel]

I was out representing in Grapevine Texas tonight! 
                                                                      -Keith

[557]

Shelby's are cool period.I enjoy every iteration...Alas,I don't see enough of them on the road...

[FL SAAC]

Shelby's are cool period.I enjoy every iteration...Alas,I don't see enough of them on the road...

+ 1

[FL SAAC]

All for one and one for all, bring em out and lets all get along and enjoy our cars as they are, and not continually nit pick about whats wrong with every ones rides!

by general consent, plus one

[Bigfoot]

It would be very hard to place a "standard" by which one would judge anything that has deviated from the textbook.
That said,...I think a personalized "show" or corral would be fun with cars from 65-71,..but would they be judged or merely "voted for," which by the way is how the class (people's choice) we talked about works,...ie votes from peeps.

[Greg]

Let's all be honest with ourselves.  A person in this hobby knows whether they have a vehicle that is at the level of concours before they enter it, if you don't, then shame on them.  I have seen plenty of examples of top level Shelby cars where one could build his or her to that level and feel good about entering it if they wanted.  The problem comes in when a person has a day 2 car but feels it should be at a higher level (because they want the recognition) and they get their feelings hurt.  They feel picked apart and feel their car is "less than", even though they didn't put in the time and money to get the car to the top level.  The truth is, they should not have entered it in that class and should have just show it and be proud of what they have and maybe asked some of the judges to come by and offer some advice.

I do 100% agree there should be published guidelines but regardless, I have meet A LOT of people that will help you for free if you just ask nicely.  I for one love them all, I appreciate the amount of time and money a top level car takes, I also appreciate the road hard and put up wet cars.   

[69 GT350 Vert]

What do the stats tell us?  Is overall (concours and non-concours) vintage shelby car attendance at conventions increasing or decreasing?

If car attendance is high/increasing, then why fix something that is not broken?

If car attendance is low/decreasing, then a change may be needed.   

[Chris Thauberger]

Let's all be honest with ourselves.  A person in this hobby knows whether they have a vehicle that is at the level of concours before they enter it, if you don't, then shame on them.  I have seen plenty of examples of top level Shelby cars where one could build his or her to that level and feel good about entering it if they wanted.  The problem comes in when a person has a day 2 car but feels it should be at a higher level (because they want the recognition) and they get their feelings hurt.  They feel picked apart and feel their car is "less than", even though they didn't put in the time and money to get the car to the top level.  The truth is, they should not have entered it in that class and should have just show it and be proud of what they have and maybe asked some of the judges to come by and offer some advice.

I do 100% agree there should be published guidelines but regardless, I have meet A LOT of people that will help you for free if you just ask nicely.  I for one love them all, I appreciate the amount of time and money a top level car takes, I also appreciate the road hard and put up wet cars.   

+1 feelings...


Chris