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67 Shelby 6A black interior trim ‘smooth seats’ – Who’s Got ‘Em?

Started by Richstang, May 09, 2019, 08:05:58 PM

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Richstang

The post build Ford records show approximately ~340 cars left San Jose with the 6A 'smooth' black vinyl trim. That's ~10.6% of production. These can be split into two groups, as early builds, or as late builds. We believe the first ~228 cars ordered, on DSOs 2501-2527, received the 6A trim. These are the early builds.

For the remaining ~113 cars, the late builds, it's not so simple to define. It appears a materials shortage affected these cars. That shortage looks to have happened over multiple days starting in early June.

The only way to know for certain if you have one of these cars with 6A trim is to obtain a Deluxe Marti Report.
Information on obtaining a Marti Report can be found through this link; http://bit.ly/2t7I4bH

Here's how you can HELP:
If you happen to have one of these rare 6A-trimmed 1967 Shelby's (documented by a Deluxe Marti report), please reply to this thread (or PM me) with the following details from your car's Marti Report:
-The Shelby sequence number (last 4 digits)
-The Ford Trim code (6A, 5A, or 5U)
-The DSO number
-The DSO Item Number

We currently estimate these later-built cars with 6A trim (due to the 5A materials shortage) began while the DSO 89-2608 group of cars was being built. This was roughly after VIN #2800 and continued through to the end of San Jose production. With your help, we'll be able to pinpoint exactly what days(s) the assembly line ran out of material, when they were re-supplied, and the exact quantity of cars that were built with 6A trim by paint color. Thanks in advance for your help!

Additional details and theories can be found at the "1967 Shelby Research Group" in this link: http://bit.ly/67Shelby6Atrim

There was a discussion on SAAC forum 1.0 noting the earlier 6A 'smooth' trim differed from the later 6A 'smooth' trim. A few of us have tried to determine exactly what those differences were, but we have not been able to spot what exactly they are. If anyone can elaborate on those details, please let us know. I'm sure it would be appreciated by everyone interested in these 6A trimmed cars.   
1967 Shelby Research Group 

www.1967ShelbyResearch.com
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1991-1993 SAAC MKI, MKII, & Snake Registrar

mgreene

While I no longer have the car ( sold it Orlando Mustang in 1988), GT 500 #1865 had smooth seats. Of course, I was not the original owner.
'66 GT-350H
'69 428SCJ Mach 1
'72 Pantera

6972boss

I don't have a Marti for mine yet but my seats are original and they are smooth.  #3119.
Here is a picture of #10 also with original interior.

Richstang

Quote from: mgreene on May 10, 2019, 08:09:42 AM
While I no longer have the car ( sold it Orlando Mustang in 1988), GT 500 #1865 had smooth seats. Of course, I was not the original owner.

I really appreciate the reply! Everything is helpful to sort this out

#1865 does not look good as an original 6A 'smooth' trim car. It was built at San Jose on 4/13/67 several months after the early built cars and almost two months before the later built cars with 6A trim. We are lucky to have found the Marti Report for this car. It notes 5A 'comfortweave trim. Others Marti Reports from that same date (on, before, and after) also show 5A trim. It looks like #1865 may have either been replaced with the wrong material or had the seats swapped from another car. I will add your note to our data file to track it. Thank You!
1967 Shelby Research Group 

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67350#1242

#1242    Feb 1st  SJ build
6A Trim
842525  DSO
3532   DSO item #
67 GT350  SJ 02/01/67  Gray 4spd A/C
67 Coupe  SJ 11/16/66  White Auto A/C PDB

Richstang

Quote from: 6972boss on May 10, 2019, 10:11:49 AM
I don't have a Marti for mine yet but my seats are original and they are smooth.  #3119.
Here is a picture of #10 also with original interior.

6972boss,
#3119 is a solid candidate for the 6A 'smooth' trim. It was built at San Jose on 6/30/67. Since you mention they are original, I am looking at this date very closely. We have photos of other cars built on that date also showing the 6A trim. If you get a Marti Report, we'd love to get the details. They really do help us to see the whole picture of when this likely shortage may have started and ended on or near that day(s). Thanks for your help Rob, and for the photo of #0010 with the early 6A trim!
1967 Shelby Research Group 

www.1967ShelbyResearch.com
www.facebook.com/groups/1967shelbyresearch

1991-1993 SAAC MKI, MKII, & Snake Registrar

Richstang

Quote from: 67350#1242 on May 10, 2019, 08:03:28 PM
#1242    Feb 1st  SJ build
6A Trim
842525  DSO
3532   DSO item #

Thanks again Kurt! We have you covered on the early cars with the 6A 'smooth' trim.
By the way, only about a dozen cars were built in February with the early 6A trim.
:)
1967 Shelby Research Group 

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www.facebook.com/groups/1967shelbyresearch

1991-1993 SAAC MKI, MKII, & Snake Registrar

2112

Quote from: 67350#1242 on May 10, 2019, 08:03:28 PM
#1242    Feb 1st  SJ build
6A Trim
842525  DSO
3532   DSO item #

875, SJ Build date February 2, the very next day, got a 5A trim.

Richstang

Quote from: 2112 on May 10, 2019, 09:58:05 PM
Quote from: 67350#1242 on May 10, 2019, 08:03:28 PM
#1242    Feb 1st  SJ build
6A Trim
842525  DSO
3532   DSO item #

875, SJ Build date February 2, the very next day, got a 5A trim.

Michael, this might seems odd, but the earliest 5A 'comfortweave' trim built on a '67 Shelby at San Jose was November, 30 1966 (just one car).

The easiest way to explain this is the using the golden rule. Every DSO group of cars (no matter when it was started, or how long it took to finish) was built the same way for the entire run. The only variable was the paint color. The only exception to this would be a shortage of parts/materials.
1967 Shelby Research Group 

www.1967ShelbyResearch.com
www.facebook.com/groups/1967shelbyresearch

1991-1993 SAAC MKI, MKII, & Snake Registrar

2112


DennyD

The Marti report for my "67" lists 6A  Black Decor Bucket Seats. They look the same to me as the ones in your photo.   

Richstang

Quote from: 6S1568 on May 11, 2019, 12:58:05 PM
The Marti report for my "67" lists 6A  Black Decor Bucket Seats. They look the same to me as the ones in your photo.   

Hi Denny,
The photo you posted, of a '67 Mustang, (not a '67 Shelby) appears to show 5A 'comfortweave' black trim, not the 6A 'smooth' black trim that is the focus of this thread.
We're looking for help from owners of '67 Shelby's with the later 6A 'smooth' trim from after ~VIN #2800.

Feel free to PM me if you want to discuss your (beautiful Acapulco Blue) car in the photo. Let's keep this thread on track.

Thanks,
Rich
1967 Shelby Research Group 

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www.facebook.com/groups/1967shelbyresearch

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DennyD

Rich, So sorry I thought mine was 6A since that's what's on the report. I'll go away. Denny

Richstang

I sent Denny a separate PM. I don't want to discourage anyone from posting about the 6A trim during the '67 production at San Jose.

After giving this more thought, we should find overlapping of the 5A trim shortage in the '67 Mustang as well as the '67 Shelby (same line).
We will need to identify the specific dates of the later 6A 'smooth' trim (in June and July '67) to compare against.

Thanks to those who have sent me PMs (and a few emails) on their cars with 6A trim and all the Marti info requested above.
Rich
:)
1967 Shelby Research Group 

www.1967ShelbyResearch.com
www.facebook.com/groups/1967shelbyresearch

1991-1993 SAAC MKI, MKII, & Snake Registrar

Richstang

Further scrutinizing of the Marti's (deluxe reports) show us the later built 6A black 'smooth' trim appears to be limited to just 5 of the 10 production paint colors.

Nightmist Blue,
Wimbledon White,
Dark Moss Green,
Lime Gold, and
Brittany Blue.

The one car that has been missing for years, the single unit Vintage Burgundy painted car, can only be guessed at based on the build date 7/10/67.
Without a Marti for that one, it will always be a guess. At the least, we have one Marti for another car built that date that show 5A trim. That's a start.
1967 Shelby Research Group 

www.1967ShelbyResearch.com
www.facebook.com/groups/1967shelbyresearch

1991-1993 SAAC MKI, MKII, & Snake Registrar