1967 GT350 B/FX racer found in Chicago.

[Thomas]

The radiator is from either a 289 Mustang with extra cooling or a GT350 with extra cooling as it's a C7ZE with a T2 tag. Same one as in my car.
Only SJ cars got the W MO radiators with that tag. It also has the marking of a W MO and a date stamp on the passenger side of the top tank.
Need a pic of stamp to narrow down a possible date for the car.

That's two parts from a GT350 -- possibly. It's odd the radiator still exists.

on edit -- add some rad details.

Thank you for the information and also to everyone on the site for the positive posts and messages. It really helps to keep me pushing forward with the car. I'm going to try and pull the 1/4 panel interior sections to see what's hiding in there too. Since they would of had to be removed to install the roll bar, maybe there is a hidden clue.

I will take detailed pics of the Radiator this evening. I will also look for any markings or marks under the dash cowl since there is still a decent amount of the original factory metal under the dash pad.

[Coralsnake]

Just like the transmission, I would not take the radiator ( bolt on part) as evidence. Im not trying to be a buzz kill, just a realist.

The roll bar might be a better clue

[Thomas]

Rear speaker tray:     O ZB 63 O
                                  2 13 2

Naming the panel  that your looking at and documenting is often an issue when collecting date codes. I have no idea of what you would call a rear speaker tray on a 67 fastback. Just one of the challenges of  process

The panel that I mistakenly referred to as the rear speaker tray is actually the panel which is up inside of the trunk, between the rear glass and the trunk lid. In most older cars its referred to as a speaker tray, just not on this fastback style. Its not easy to access unless you're a very small person. Using a mirror was the easiest method. I'd be interested in seeing what some of the other cars have stamped in the same location.

The panel has several holes stamped in it. In the center of this panel, there are a series of large numbers stamped into it. Mine started with a large circle then Z B 6 3, than an additional large circle. These numbers run sideways on the panel. (front of car to back as an reference). There is a second set of numbers just below it showing 2 13 2.

[Thomas]

Just like the transmission, I would not take the radiator ( bolt on part) as evidence. Im not trying to be a buzz kill, just a realist.

The roll bar might be a better clue

I have a couple pics of the roll bar but they are not very good. I will post what I have ASAP. I will take better more detailed pics of it this evening.

[557]

Any label on the seatbelt?

[Thomas]

Any label on the seatbelt?

Only the outer belts are present. The inner belts (end with the push button) are removed from the mounting points. I will take a look to see if there are any tags or marks on the remaining belts.

[Harris Speedster]

Thomas,
How does it feel to be an apprentice archivist ?
Smile !!
Creeping closer to an end that may never end ?
Does it have any of the under dash wiring left?
Does it have the leaf spring bumpers underneath?

What was the remark you made about a cowl mark ? white or yellow  in color ?
John

[Bossbill]

Just like the transmission, I would not take the radiator ( bolt on part) as evidence. Im not trying to be a buzz kill, just a realist.

The roll bar might be a better clue

Yes, the radiator is just a bolt on part.
But, it's the culmination of all the clues that's important.
Evidently this radiator was used in the Feb-May time frame and this jives with the sheet metal date.
Because it is bolt on, the evidence 'weight' is not nearly as good as a welded on part. But it could be a clue if all the evidence points that way.

Boy, I've been watching too many cop procedurals ...

[Richstang]

From February until the end of May there were 125 white GT350's built at San Jose.

[Thomas]

From February until the end of May there were 125 white GT350's built at San Jose.

Question; How long after body panels were stamped did they end up at the assembly plants for the builds?

What I'm getting at here is that if the oldest date I can find so far is 2/26 (Rear tail panel), when would this car have been assembled? shipped? Is there anyone else who has a SJ March build / assembly date who has knowledge of their panel stamping dates?

It might help to narrow down a Ford plant assembly date if there are other people with similar date codes...?

[Richstang]

From February until the end of May there were 125 white GT350's built at San Jose.

Question; How long after body panels were stamped did they end up at the assembly plants for the builds?

What I'm getting at here is that if the oldest date I can find so far is 2/26 (Rear tail panel), when would this car have been assembled? shipped? Is there anyone else who has a SJ March build / assembly date who has knowledge of their panel stamping dates?

It might help to narrow down a Ford plant assembly date if there are other people with similar date codes...?

If it was based on a GT350, with the 2/26 panel date (noted as the latest date stamped code on a permanent panel found so far)...
That eliminates all the White GT350s built in February at SJ (the last GT350 white GT350 was built on 2/16.
White GT350 Production starts up again on 3/15.
From mid March to the end of May there were 116 white GT350s built.

Did you ever find out what state the original owner lived in? That would significantly cut down possibilities.

[gt350hr]

  Are we ruling out the back half of a GT500?

[Thomas]

I came across a different posting regarding the rear tie-down brackets and thought that I would add a couple pictures of the ones that are on this car. Not sure that it will help in any way, but since I had the pics I thought I would add them to the discussion.  I also added another Radiator pic.

[Thomas]

From February until the end of May there were 125 white GT350's built at San Jose.

Question; How long after body panels were stamped did they end up at the assembly plants for the builds?

What I'm getting at here is that if the oldest date I can find so far is 2/26 (Rear tail panel), when would this car have been assembled? shipped? Is there anyone else who has a SJ March build / assembly date who has knowledge of their panel stamping dates?

It might help to narrow down a Ford plant assembly date if there are other people with similar date codes...?

If it was based on a GT350, with the 2/26 panel date (noted as the latest date stamped code on a permanent panel found so far)...
That eliminates all the White GT350s built in February at SJ (the last GT350 white GT350 was built on 2/16.
White GT350 Production starts up again on 3/15.
From mid March to the end of May there were 116 white GT350s built.

Did you ever find out what state the original owner lived in? That would significantly cut down possibilities.

The only info that I have at the moment is that the car was found in Chicago. There is zero history on this car prior to me purchasing it.  My best guess would be that the car was converted / modified around the 69'/70' timeframe, but knowing its origination point seems like an impossible task at this point. I see what you're saying though, if I were to search for any white, March & May build cars sold new in the Illinois area it could add some data, only speculative of course.

Thank you for the suggestion.

[roddster]

  Gauranteed: IF this car was owned by some high-zoot restorer, Concours afficianado, auction owner, pal of somebody important then for sure it would be blessed/ordained as a Shelby.