1042 Princeton Drive

[Side-Oilers]

In back of 1042... and the front of 1040...

[Side-Oilers]

Last ones...
I think this is next door, at 1040.  I remember just getting to stick my head inside for a moment.

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Getting closer to finding my Princeton photos.   Was able to find this article in my files, from the Los Angeles Times in 2012.

Yes, a cousin of mine is one of the partners.

Wow, interesting. I hope their plan is to keep the building intact.

[Szabo]

Thanks a lot for your Pics !!!

Those and the skeetches are just amazing, special the Office Aera and the Stair Section

Damm i will start my Princeton Walk a round tour at this point right now

[Szabo]

Getting closer to finding my Princeton photos.   Was able to find this article in my files, from the Los Angeles Times in 2012.

Yes, a cousin of mine is one of the partners.

Wow, interesting. I hope their plan is to keep the building intact.

i just wondering why nobody take some Money and make a "Venice" Shelby Shop, nearly the Bricket Wall are
original to the time ...
The shelby Hype just high in States and this Building has so much of Shelby American History

[Side-Oilers]

I am enjoying the Carter Avenue photo and info thread, as my GT350 5006 was built there. It is likely one of the cars in photos of the early production, although impossible to know which one.

I found a coupe of sketches in my file of the interior layout of 1042 Princeton. They were made by Shelby team driver Allen Grant in 1963. I thought they may be of interest.

Bill,
I'm wondering if the location of "The Famous Three Cobras Photo" is actually at the rear of 1042 (or maybe 1040?)  and not in front (as the Allen Grant sketch shows.)

Notice how the building to the right, in the Cobras photo, juts out much further than the one where the cars and CS are.

However, on the front (Princeton street) side, the building is more in line with the one to the right. 

Plus, all the junk visible in the photo with the Cobras looks more like a "back of the building" thing.

Please, everyone, let me know if I'm missing something or have incorrectly deduced.
Van

[Don Johnston]

It would have been interesting to have the "Original Venice Crew" rent or buy the building for their production of a revised GT350R.  But  I can understand that the location is no longer a remote industrial tract, but apratments and office buildings. Reving up the engines and doing testing on Princeton Drive would not be appreciated.

[Side-Oilers]

That would indeed be cool.

Probably out of $$ reach, though, as well as what you mentioned about the neighbors not liking the sounds of revving V-8s and all those "horrible" carbon emissions.

[Szabo]

I am enjoying the Carter Avenue photo and info thread, as my GT350 5006 was built there. It is likely one of the cars in photos of the early production, although impossible to know which one.

I found a coupe of sketches in my file of the interior layout of 1042 Princeton. They were made by Shelby team driver Allen Grant in 1963. I thought they may be of interest.

Bill,
I'm wondering if the location of "The Famous Three Cobras Photo" is actually at the rear of 1042 (or maybe 1040?)  and not in front (as the Allen Grant sketch shows.)

Notice how the building to the right, in the Cobras photo, juts out much further than the one where the cars and CS are.

However, on the front (Princeton street) side, the building is more in line with the one to the right. 

Plus, all the junk visible in the photo with the Cobras looks more like a "back of the building" thing.

Please, everyone, let me know if I'm missing something or have incorrectly deduced.
Van

Yeah this Pic with the "Famous Cobra" is on the front side, at backside no Garage door !!!

Maybe you want to look at my Walk around Thread from Princeton Drive, even wich more Photos
to anaylesd.

The Cobras are just finished, when you look at other Pics from the other Point we see the Shelby Hauler
just loading these Cobras for Racing

The "Junk" is something to handle Cobras on trailer or hauler or even Race Equipment

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Steve,
You are correct about the three Cobras with CS being at the front of the 1042 building. 

The additional photos on your other thread helped refresh my memories. 

[Szabo]

Let's go outside...

Hello Side Oiler,

thanks for your Research and these good and sharp Pics from 2012,
a few i saw befor in the Internet on some Resarch by my own, or
maybe nearly from same Position at your.

Quite surprising of the unknown inside Pics from Stairs and Office Aera...

Now with these skeetches in first post we all can see clearly through this
Building like we have X-Ray

[Richstang]

Wow. lot's happening in this thread.

First,
Thanks to Bill Collins for posting the Alan Grant floor plans! Thank you sir!

Second,
Thanks to Van 'Side-Oilers' for the 2012 Princeton Drive photos inside and out.
I was wondering what the foyer / entrance looked like. Not much room for anything other than the steps and entrances to the work spaces.
We also get an idea of how large the back lot was fro the property with the Ford pick-up camper parked next to the building...

In the Alan Grant plans it notes Carroll Shelby's office in the back on the left (when facing the front of the building). While it is a bigger room I would have to think there were some windows in there. Grant's plans may not have been 100% accurate, as the front windows don't match what we see in the 60's photos.

The three Cobra's parked to the left of the garage doors are definitely in the front. I have no doubt about that. It's just the 1042 building was stepped back a few feet from the 1040-1038 building. They were not built parallel to the street so they have a staggered fit on the property, with more ground area on the right side.

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Rich,
Thanks for the additional photos of the front of the buildings.  Yes, I stand corrected on the location of the three Cobras.

At the risk of my making another mistake, I'm 99.98% certain that CS's office was on the front side of the building, where the "1042" numbers are located in my photos.

Note in the Grant sketch, that the top of that drawing is the front of the building...facing Princeton Dr...which agrees with my views.

I went up the stairs to the second floor, and that was the largest and best-view office. The offices on the back side mostly had a view of the roof of the shop.  I put a couple of pix of that in my earlier photo posts.

Makes sense?

[Szabo]

Wow. lot's happening in this thread.

First,
Thanks to Bill Collins for posting the Alan Grant floor plans! Thank you sir!

Second,
Thanks to Van 'Side-Oilers' for the 2012 Princeton Drive photos inside and out.
I was wondering what the foyer / entrance looked like. Not much room for anything other than the steps and entrances to the work spaces.
We also get an idea of how large the back lot was fro the property with the Ford pick-up camper parked next to the building...

In the Alan Grant plans it notes Carroll Shelby's office in the back on the left (when facing the front of the building). While it is a bigger room I would have to think there were some windows in there. Grant's plans may not have been 100% accurate, as the front windows don't match what we see in the 60's photos.

The three Cobra's parked to the left of the garage doors are definitely in the front. I have no doubt about that. It's just the 1042 building was stepped back a few feet from the 1040-1038 building. They were not built parallel to the street so they have a staggered fit on the property, with more ground area on the right side.

Can you remember telling me about the darker Brick Wall Section in the Carter Building  
(i learned i little from you in just one Week or so )

Well, looking at the 1040 Princenton Drive and see exactly the same !
i think they rebuild this front section at one Point (befor Shelby American comes to Princeton)
There is even a "Mistaken" Photo Shoot from exactly this Brick Wall Frontside,
when i see it on the Data Base i will post it here...

Edith: found it.

[Don Johnston]

This thread and others of similar topic, would make a great full edition Shelby American issue or soft cover book sometime.  The contributions are amazing and historically good to have while so few are left to share the fantastic details.