1967 Ten spokes - Identify Original vs. Reproduction

[JD]

only the '66 version of 10-spokes were 14 inch wheel diameter, all the '67 versions were 15 inch wheel diameter

[Richstang]

Great thread!

Thanks for all the photo variations JD,
Thanks for the webpage Pete,
and thanks to everyone else who contributed bit and pieces of info...Good stuff here!!

[Fast Fords]

I was informed by a knowledgeable '67 guy who told me that some of the '67 10 spoke wheels did not come with part #'s on the back side of the rim but were actually original '67 10 spoke wheels. Can anyone confirm this or deny this ?

[Bob Gaines]

I was informed by a knowledgeable '67 guy who told me that some of the '67 10 spoke wheels did not come with part #'s on the back side of the rim but were actually original '67 10 spoke wheels. Can anyone confirm this or deny this ?

Read reply #10 .

[shelbydoug]

I have heard that some of the originals did not have a part # on the back of one of the spokes.  Is this true ?

Yes this is true. I believe that the ones with out the numbers are the second version that is supposed to clear ( from experience some will, some won't ) the 68 & up single piston K/H calipers.
Rodney

The naked set (no casting id) that I have I bought in the early 70s from Jeff Burgy. He had been using them a few years on his '66 GT350. They do not have the cast in spacer in them.

He actually had GR50-15 BFG's on that car with these wheels.

When I asked, he didn't remember where he bought them but thought they were local out of the Detroit area.

There are 15" 10 spokes listed in one of the Shelby accessory catalogs dated 1966. I'd speculate that they are before production use on '67 Shelbys. That started sometime around June of '67 when they became the "Deluxe" wheels.

My 67 GT500 is in a DSO group that had them installed new.

[68blk500c]

I was informed by a knowledgeable '67 guy who told me that some of the '67 10 spoke wheels did not come with part #'s on the back side of the rim but were actually original '67 10 spoke wheels. Can anyone confirm this or deny this ?

Confirmed.  Have a set.

[roddster]

  I seem to recall that: 68' ten spokes (well, those bought back in the day for a 68') will rub the caliper on a 67'.  OK, we all know the 68's (mostly) came with hubcaps.

[shelbydoug]

  I seem to recall that: 68' ten spokes (well, those bought back in the day for a 68') will rub the caliper on a 67'.  OK, we all know the 68's (mostly) came with hubcaps.

> <, you have it backwards. 67s rub on a 68 with no spacer. In fact you may still need to polish down the caliper on a 68.

I got my 67, no spacer wheels to fit on my 68 by grinding the casting seam off of the caliper. That gives you a better clearance on the fender lips in front.

[Coralsnake]

I think Doug is correct.

The 1967 ten spokes will rub on the larger 1968 single piston calipers.  It you want to use them a grinder comes in handy. The 1968 versions were not available for production of 1968s.

They did however, manage to make a few sets work. Those cars were sent to Europe as exports. It would be interesting to inspect those if any survive?

[shelbydoug]

I think Doug is correct.

The 1967 ten spokes will rub on the larger 1968 single piston calipers.  It you want to use them a grinder comes in handy. The 1968 versions were not available for production of 1968s.

They did however, manage to make a few sets work. Those cars were sent to Europe as exports. It would be interesting to inspect those if any survive?

Three went to Spain. Two went to Japan. Five invoiced cars.

There could have been more since there were 1,900 invoices missing. Lois Emenger had the same situation since the invoices were cc'd to her from a batch that Howard was allowed to take for the Ford archives.

As far as I know, the papers that came out of the attic of Shelby's Goodyear tire location in LA were only from the California operations and they stopped at the '67s.

[GT350DAVE]

None of the 67 documents came from the attic in CA. There weren't any there.

[honker]

Just for interest, here's a pic I took of a '67 GT350, in the summer of '67 at Sud Automobile, on the south shore in Montreal, Canada.

Mike

[68krrrr]

Adding to this old thread if you guys don't mind to keep it all in one place ,but having some lug nut issues my car is in the shop & apparently I two types of lug nuts on the car mix & matched & there causing play in the wheels .So trying to figure out what I need & shop is having a hard time locating any from there sources ,1st two pics are my wheels I know there gold but I assumed they where original & version 3 on Petes chart ,& JDs pic of the lug But seems to be what I need as it has the cut out for a washer .is there an aftermarket version of that lug I need or are we confused as to what I have & need thanks .

[427heaven]

Those are wrong call BRANDAS they will get you what you need!

[427heaven]

Refer back to JD,S top picture that's what you need.