Hood and trunk black paint

[acman63]

does ayone have some good pics of  of the underside of an original 67 all glass hood and decklid that has been blacked out

[J_Speegle]

Yes have a number of them. Let me grab a few. The exterior color makes a fair amount of difference since a light car (white for example) will show more "misting or overspray  than darker colors where the overspray is difficult to see over the base black

First the trunk - You may have seen these pictures posted over on the Concours site in one or two threads about the subject. One where we were discussing about the paint coverage typically found on the trunk hinges so the captions relate to that subject


Arm appears to have full but somewhat lighter paint on bottom side. Don't forget the extra tootsie roll in place and painted on the drivers side.




Arm appears to have full but slightly heavier paint coat on passenger side. No shadow visible in picture on lower hinge or body hinge bracket



Decent paint coat (little light inside arm up towards the top) on hinge and no shadows


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Additional pictures of white exterior cars for contrast purposes









Different angle from one of the cars shown above



Hope this helps

[Bob Gaines]

I answered a question on a similar thread started on the Concours Mustang forum . I thought I would post it here also for the benefit of those reading here. The question was in regards to the Plaza fiberglass sticker (factory supplier) with overspray paint on it. The Plaza fiberglass stickers didn't always stay put when stuck to the fiberglass so if missing there is typically a witness line in the shape of the missing sticker. No harm no foul in concours because that was "just the way it was" (quote Ed Meyer) . Also the stickers were on the trunk lids of course when they arrived at SA so the bottom side of the trunk and hood were apparently already blacked out when delivered to SA.Some were not blacked out and were bare fiberglass. Yes if you have a body color overspray pattern on the bottom side as it would be from the factory and the sticker is in the line of fire but somehow doesn't have overspray on it then it is grounds for a small deduction in concours judging given it wouldn't make practical sense. There were a varying range of spray patterns from one trunk lid or hood to another.   

[texas swede]

When I bought #1317 in 1977 it's hood and trunk under sides looked like the pictures Jeff posted.
However, there was a metal mesh under the hood which I removed later.
Texas Swede

[Bill Collins]

When I bought #1317 in 1977 it's hood and trunk under sides looked like the pictures Jeff posted.
However, there was a metal mesh under the hood which I removed later.
Texas Swede

Anyone care to comment on the matter of some cars having this metal mesh on the underside of the hood? I have seen this on various '67's over the years - most recently on #1595, a factory paint GT500 with 50,000 miles.

[JD]

When I bought #1317 in 1977 it's hood and trunk under sides looked like the pictures Jeff posted.
However, there was a metal mesh under the hood which I removed later.
Texas Swede

Anyone care to comment on the matter of some cars having this metal mesh on the underside of the hood? I have seen this on various '67's over the years - most recently on #1595, a factory paint GT500 with 50,000 miles.

I have heard that it was added to help with radio reception, which was very poor on the '67 Shelby's, typically by dealers - others will hopefully know more/better.

[GT350DAVE]

We have a number of warranty forms by dealers adding the screen to eliminate radio static.

Dave M.

[GT350DAVE]

does ayone have some good pics of  of the underside of an original 67 all glass hood and decklid that has been blacked out

I want to add that some cars that had the Plazaglas fiberglass hoods and trunk lids were unpainted on the bottom side. The attached photo is what the underside of my hood for #2115 looked like with a little soap and water. The trunk lid was also unpainted.
Dave

[J_Speegle]

.....................The Plaza fiberglass stickers didn't always stay put when stuck to the fiberglass so if missing there is typically a witness line in the shape of the missing sticker..............................

To illustrate the shadow which would have been left after a Plaza sticker fell off later in life I offer the following. Of course this would not have taken place on panels supplied by other providers

[J_Speegle]

A few examples of the bottom of the hood as requested. Lot less of them since so many have been painted over or rattle canned black over the years. Again tried to stay with white for contrast purposes

On this one (blue car) it shows some overspray that gained access to the bottom surface through the hood scoop openings



And others




Basically new car



Hope these help

[shelbydoug]

On the full 'glass hoods and decklids, any idea as to what the percentage is painted black vs. left as 'cast'? 95/5/ 50/50, etc?

It would seem to me that the vast majority (95%) were not painted?

[J_Speegle]

It would seem to me that the vast majority (95%) were not painted?

If your asking about how much of the bottom (ignoring the body color over and direct spray) received black verse no black it depended on the hood. Most of the original cars I've had or seen were black 100% to 90% . Some examples had the black cleaned off (still visible in the edges of the grain while others appeared to have been missed but both the later were the minority by allot. When (vast majority) the stickers fall off the coat of black is very notable and easy to see

Just my experience talking about the Plaza examples

[shelbydoug]

Well I presume they started as 100% covered and just got the typical varying overspray but I meant, why are some Plaza units plain and some painted and is there an educated guess on the percentages?

[Bob Gaines]

It would seem to me that the vast majority (95%) were not painted?

If your asking about how much of the bottom (ignoring the body color over and direct spray) received black verse no black it depended on the hood. Most of the original cars I've had or seen were black 100% to 90% . Some examples had the black cleaned off (still visible in the edges of the grain while others appeared to have been missed but both the later were the minority by allot. When (vast majority) the stickers fall off the coat of black is very notable and easy to see

Just my experience talking about the Plaza examples

+1 . The ones that were painted black and from the evidence were unmolested were in the vast majority. Far fewer were bare fiberglass but they are out there. 

[shelbydoug]

I would have thought it was the opposite. I still haven't seen an original '67 with the black paint. I've ONLY seen the unpainted "ugly greenish" unfinished fiberglass. Maybe the original black was water color paint and washed off the first NE winter?

I'm ok with the black though. It looks SO much better...and I'm NOT going to paint over the Plaza stickers with it. You know how much those things cost?