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Started by BGlover67, December 09, 2019, 01:41:12 PM

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BGlover67

Recently I was having a discussion with a friend about the early '67s with hand engraved VIN plates.  What's the current thought on these?  I thought I remembered someone saying all the cars with them seem to have Shelby American finishing dates before 11/1/66.  Also, many of the cars from this time period, had their original plates replaced with the later, more commonly found stamped version?  Just another quirky feature found on early '67s.
Thanks,
Brian R. Glover
SAAC Carolina's Northern Representative

Richstang

#1

10/31/66 is the last SAI completion date I've seen with a hand engraved VIN.
I've only noted 6 cars with one of these hand engraved plates.

Update; 12 cars with hand engraved VIN tags have been uncovered

1967 Shelby Research Group 

www.1967ShelbyResearch.com
www.facebook.com/groups/1967shelbyresearch

1991-1993 SAAC MKI, MKII, & Snake Registrar

shelby101

I just purchased #78 and it has the hand engraved vin plate. 

Richstang,

Is #78 on your list?
Thanks! 
Kevin DiCeglie
#78

Richstang

#3
Yes it is, but THANK YOU for the note!

Edit; Congrats on your purchase!!!
Any thoughts of repainting it in the very rare original Bronze?
1967 Shelby Research Group 

www.1967ShelbyResearch.com
www.facebook.com/groups/1967shelbyresearch

1991-1993 SAAC MKI, MKII, & Snake Registrar

shelby101

Definitely, but for now I am going to drive it and bang through the gears for a few years. 
Thanks! 
Kevin DiCeglie
#78

Richstang

Quote from: shelby101 on December 09, 2019, 02:29:02 PM
Definitely, but for now I am going to drive it and bang through the gears for a few years.

8)    ;D
1967 Shelby Research Group 

www.1967ShelbyResearch.com
www.facebook.com/groups/1967shelbyresearch

1991-1993 SAAC MKI, MKII, & Snake Registrar

JD

#6
Quote from: BGlover67 on December 09, 2019, 01:41:12 PM
Recently I was having a discussion with a friend about the early '67s with hand engraved VIN plates.  What's the current thought on these?  I thought I remembered someone saying all the cars with them seem to have Shelby American finishing dates before 11/1/66.  Also, many of the cars from this time period, had their original plates replaced with the later, more commonly found stamped version?  Just another quirky feature found on early '67s.

That is what my observations have shown Shelby Completion dates before 11/1/66, but it's '67 Shelby so not carved in stone
'67 Shelby Headlight Bucket Grommets https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=254.0
'67 Shelby Lower Grille Edge Protective Strip https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=1237.0

67_1183

Quote from: BGlover67 on December 09, 2019, 01:41:12 PM
Also, many of the cars from this time period, had their original plates replaced with the later, more commonly found stamped version?

One of the replacement plates was offered for sale on eBay back in 2017 for almost $3k.

Here is the highlights of that listing:

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Details about  1967 GT-350 ORIGINAL SHELBY SERIAL NUMBER TAG FOR 51st SHELBY NOT A REPO!

Seller information
piedmontpartsandcollectibles (409 )

Price:
US $2,995.00
From $144 for 24 months

Item location:
Charlotte, North Carolina

Not sure who owns this car right now,but if you have this car,it does NOT HAVE THIS!This will make it more original.Stamped at the Shelby factory.Taken off when car was near new.The ONLY ONE!

Here was Dave's response (saved from Forum 1.0):

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I believe these tags were stamped back in 1967 to replace the hand lettered tags. Because these exist, doesn't mean it is the original tag installed on the car when new. It is a replacement.
Dave

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The tag coming up for sale on eBay is unfortunate but not as big a deal as some might think. The tag is only a very small portion of the car. The Ford VIN, history and other unique components of the car make it what it is.
The unused tag has a story and it was obtained by someone who has no ownership of the car. Was it a take off like the eBay add states? It looks unused to me and one of the duplicate tags we see now and then. We have been successful in squashing every car we are aware of that someone has tried to clone.

#51 has great documented history. No tag on eBay will effect it's authenticity. If it is put on an air car, we will inform the proper authorities about it. If that happens Federal laws would have been broken.

Dave
2nd owner of 67 GT500 #1183 since September 1976

Richstang

#8
How the eBay seller got that original tag is beyond me.
Fortunately, as Dave mentioned, this car has an exceptionally well known history and the current owner is aware of the eBay replacement tag.
The Shelby police are watching...
;D
1967 Shelby Research Group 

www.1967ShelbyResearch.com
www.facebook.com/groups/1967shelbyresearch

1991-1993 SAAC MKI, MKII, & Snake Registrar

BGlover67

#9
Don't worry, I have it on good authority that VIN plate is safe and in someone's very capable hands.  ::)

It will NEVER end up on an air car.
Thanks,
Brian R. Glover
SAAC Carolina's Northern Representative

capecodmustang.com

Hand etched plates?

Love 'em....

Richstang

You've just confirmed my #6 from the previous owner...no names needed.
Thanks for sharing!
8)
1967 Shelby Research Group 

www.1967ShelbyResearch.com
www.facebook.com/groups/1967shelbyresearch

1991-1993 SAAC MKI, MKII, & Snake Registrar

98SVT - was 06GT

Quote from: shelby101 on December 09, 2019, 02:29:02 PM
Definitely, but for now I am going to drive it and bang through the gears for a few years.
I hope you continue to drive and beat on it after repaint/restoration. They are cars not wall hangers.
Previous owner 6S843 - GT350H & 68 GT500 Convert #135.
Mine: GT1 Mustang, 1998 SVT 32V, 1929 Model A Coupe, Wife's: 2004 Tbird
Member since 1975 - priceless

Richstang

Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on December 09, 2019, 08:29:57 PM
Quote from: shelby101 on December 09, 2019, 02:29:02 PM
Definitely, but for now I am going to drive it and bang through the gears for a few years.
I hope you continue to drive and beat on it after repaint/restoration. They are cars not wall hangers.

If my info is correct, I think he needs to put it back together first.
:-\
1967 Shelby Research Group 

www.1967ShelbyResearch.com
www.facebook.com/groups/1967shelbyresearch

1991-1993 SAAC MKI, MKII, & Snake Registrar

BGlover67

Quote from: Richstang on December 09, 2019, 09:05:34 PM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on December 09, 2019, 08:29:57 PM
Quote from: shelby101 on December 09, 2019, 02:29:02 PM
Definitely, but for now I am going to drive it and bang through the gears for a few years.
I hope you continue to drive and beat on it after repaint/restoration. They are cars not wall hangers.

If my info is correct, I think he needs to put it back together first.
:-\

Rich,  Not quite sure what you mean.  He bought Henry's car.  It's very complete, just red now.  Awesome driver.
Thanks,
Brian R. Glover
SAAC Carolina's Northern Representative