Bullitt stays in USA !!!!

[FL SAAC Team Leader]

patina...I'll drink to that...salud !


back to the discussion,  so bullitt will stay in the USA

I'm not trying to be argumentative with what I'm about to say, but IMO, "patina" is the most overused and ridiculous word in the car industry.  It simply means wear.

Yes, there are many, many, many nice old, original cars with "appropriate patina" for their age. When it helps to qualify the car's originality, that's a good use of the word, IMO.

But, I think most of us have seen real POS cars that someone is trying to pass off as being special because it has that magical word "patina."  In some of those cases, the seller is trying to get us to believe that tons of rust, a seized engine and a thrashed interior are cool because of the "patina."

It's almost as overused and mis-used of a word as "barn find."

I'm a word guy, so stuff like that bugs me.

OK, let the banana throwing begin.

[mark p]

I'm not trying to be argumentative with what I'm about to say, but IMO, "patina" is the most overused and ridiculous word in the car industry.  It simply means wear.

Yes, there are many, many, many nice old, original cars with "appropriate patina" for their age. When it helps to qualify the car's originality, that's a good use of the word, IMO.

But, I think most of us have seen real POS cars that someone is trying to pass off as being special because it has that magical word "patina."  In some of those cases, the seller is trying to get us to believe that tons of rust, a seized engine and a thrashed interior are cool because of the "patina."

It's almost as overused and mis-used of a word as "barn find."

I'm a word guy, so stuff like that bugs me.

OK, let the banana throwing begin.

Well stated!
but, without Kiwi, not sure who else is gonna throw the banana? 

Altho... since those "old" owners cashed out for over $3 million, I'd say their choices are pretty hard to disagree with 

[BGlover67]

Excellent point Mark.  They obviously did something right.

[CSX 4133]

You can lay the blame for the expression "Patina" on the classic show car genre. It's become quite "fashionable" to bring an original car to places like Pebble Beach bearing well worn paint, etc. The coining of the word Patina applies to the paint, interior, even the motor if it's been left in "as found" condition. I guess saying the car is completely original left too much to the imagination.

[FL SAAC Team Leader]

                                   " PROVENANCE "

[Side-Oilers]

Agreed, CSX 4133.   My ire is with the people who apply the term to less-than-good cars in a effort to bamboozle someone.

Patina is also used in the antique furniture business, of course, and in my experience you need to watch out for just about as many fraudsters there as in vintage car sales. 

Caveat patina emptor!


Agreed, Tony.  Provenance is a much more useful thing, for knowledgeable buyers.  And, we've certainly seen that phrase over-used too.

[NC TRACKRAT]

Patina?  This is Patina!  :https://www.simeonemuseum.org/photos/cobra-daytona-coupe-csx-2287/

[Side-Oilers]

^^^100%.

[Shelby_r_b]

Agreed, regarding the misuse of the words "patina" and "barn find".

Case in point:  the car below that was a no sale at Kissimmee.  If you look closely, you'll see HUGE holes in the lower quarters (I could have dropped a football from inside the trunk to the ground without hitting anything on either side of the gas tank) and holes on the forward and aft areas of the aprons on both sides.

There seemed to be no money in the room, and it looked to be shill bid up to $37K.  BTW - I checked after it crossed the block, and the reserve was $65K.

https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0120-396954/1969-ford-mustang-mach-1-fastback/

[Shelby_r_b]

2 quick pics.

[FL SAAC Team Leader]

every time we hear the words patina, barn find, provenance before the introduction we know here comes another SH#T BOX

what about that bullitt staying in the continental states

[Side-Oilers]

I am very glad that Bullitt is staying in the USA.   Any intel on who bought it yet...other than Mr. Gaines and he ain't talking.

[Side-Oilers]

every time we hear the words patina, barn find, provenance before the introduction we know here comes another SH#T BOX

what about that bullitt staying in the continental states

Hole-y cow!

[CSX 4133]

Regarding the potential buyer of the Bullet car, my guess is it may end up with Ron Pratt.

[gt350hr]

   Pratt hasn't been buying for a couple of years. Not that he couldn't though.